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Post by drbiscuits on Sept 10, 2016 17:50:06 GMT -8
In a quiet town in Kanto, many pokemon trainers have gathered to hone their skills before battling the Elite Four. Little did the trainers know that the evil Team Rocket had infiltrated the town, planning to trap the trainers and steal their pokemon. It's up to the trainers of the town to weed out the Team Rocket (mafia) members one by one. But the trainers are nothing without their pokemon. Abilities in this game come directly from which pokemon you have. This game includes many power roles, including ROLES:Team Rocket Godfather Team Rocket Encryptor Lover Team Rocket Encryptor Lover Team Rocket Traitor FollowerTown Doctor Town Cop Town Vigilante Town Thief Town Jailkeeper Town's Beloved Princess Town EnablerIndependent Executioner (Hidden Role) (Hidden Role) (Hidden Role) (Hidden Role) You may ask for clarification about a disclosed role at any time, but the Mod will never confirm a role's character or what pokemon that role possesses. All pokemon in this game are true to one ability - this means that if a character owns a pidgey, and it provided the ability to double vote, then anyone else who also had a pidgey could double vote. THE RULES:
Standard mafia rules: The town wins when all Mafia players are eliminated, and the Mafia win when they have eliminated all other players or nothing can stop that from happening. Each day is divided into Day and Night phases. Days last for 72 hours - Nights last for 24. You can't discuss the game outside of the game thread with anyone, whether via PM, in person, etc. In the game thread, you are free to talk as much as you like! But only during the day. During the day, you will decide one player to lynch. You cast your vote with a bolded accusation, at the start of a line, as such: I accuse DrBiscuits.
At the end of the day, the player with the most votes dies. At any time, the day will end if a single target achieves a strict majority of votes ('hammering'). In this game, 'no lynch' will be an acceptable vote target. You may change or retract your vote at any time. In the event of a tie, a coin will be flipped. Players killed by lynching will have their identities revealed. During the night, no discussion can take place in the game thread. The mafia will confer on who to kill, and any other players with night actions will use their actions as well. Additional Rules: - You must post once per day or be replaced. I don't mean per game day, which is 72 hours, I mean per day, 24 hours. It's useless to have people die because they go inactive. This will be flexible if you PM the GM directly with travel/tourney plans.
- No editing posts. - Dead players can't post. They're dead. Dead players may be allowed one last "fuck you guys" post as they die a dramatic death, but it cannot reveal any information. - No quoting or posting screenshots of correspondence with the GM. You can claim whatever you want, but no direct quotes. Any clarification of the rules can be obtained by messaging the GM or asking in bold in the thread. IN ADDITION, there will be no mention of a role's flair or a role's included pokemon in the general thread. You cannot say anything to the effect of "I have a pidgey, so I am bulletproof", for several reasons. 1. If there are other pidgeys in the game, this can lead to a mod confirm, and 2. it makes things less fun. So just don't do it.- If a majority of players are currently voting for a single player, day will end immediately with the lynch of that player ('hammering'). - Mafia must choose a player to deliver the nightkill. - When players die, their full role PM (barring teammates for Mafia) will be posted in the thread. THESE ROLES WILL NEVER LIE. -VOTES WILL ONLY COUNT IF BOLDED AND AT THE START OF A LINE, or if I otherwise see them. I can't promise I will see short votes in the middle of paragraphs. At game start, there are 16 alive. The first day will end in 72 hours at 10 pm EST on 9/13 (7 pm PST). There will be no time extensions or day end changes. Those alive: elementalpenguin gravy MortFeld laudandus @habilecho zabimaru1000 pawn acute Appel gshark54 str1fe spideyday pinecone tckf spark676 haus
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Post by gravy on Sept 10, 2016 17:50:33 GMT -8
I am enthusiastic
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Post by pawn on Sept 10, 2016 17:58:37 GMT -8
Pretty excited for this game c: Let's have fun and pls no fraudulent ;-;
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Post by tckf on Sept 10, 2016 18:04:53 GMT -8
sup guys
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Post by MortFeld on Sept 10, 2016 18:30:07 GMT -8
Hey all, MortFeld here with another profile pic change.
We've got some old faces and some new ones. Should be fun.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2016 18:39:58 GMT -8
Howdy everyone. Time for god status habi (we in there fam) to deduce the mafia.
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Post by pawn on Sept 10, 2016 18:47:54 GMT -8
MortFeld idk how i feel about your new face, I basically began to picture you as ryuko IRL and now idk what to do
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Post by MortFeld on Sept 10, 2016 18:59:09 GMT -8
I think I'm definitely more of a Ryuuko irl than a Mononoke but with changing roles come changing personas.
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Post by pawn on Sept 10, 2016 20:00:19 GMT -8
soooooo how we all doin?
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Post by haus on Sept 10, 2016 21:32:44 GMT -8
Guess I should say hello!
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Post by MortFeld on Sept 10, 2016 21:39:34 GMT -8
Well apparently 10 of us are mafia. Hi haus ! I get a quiet day 1 because people haven't seen the new game, but it's been a few hours now so. Maybe let's all just introduce ourselves to start. I'm MortFeld, a Norcal Sheik who wastes his life on Hearthstone. I go to Cal. I encourage all the new people to check out past games, especially 3, 4, and 5. This will give you an idea of both general mafia strategy, and how certain people in this game tend to play. I also encourage you to read on the mafiascum wiki for metagame stuff, though this is less important if you don't feel like it.
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Post by MortFeld on Sept 10, 2016 21:56:31 GMT -8
Well, mainly read 3 and 4. 5 was a bit of a bust.
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Post by pawn on Sept 10, 2016 21:56:52 GMT -8
I'm pawn, I play vanilla fox, I'm a braindead techskill spammer, sort of CFL sort of Tampa sort of Tallahassee lmao. Besides Melee I play Maplestory and gravy has been teaching me poker, so soon I'll play that as well. @epengu hooked me up and got me a gig as @elevategg's social media manager for smash. That entails livetweeting stuff and that's about it so far rofl. I'm a CompSci major and I enjoy anime and Harry Potter. Also my name is Sean, feel free to call me that if you want, if not pawn is fine.
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Post by pawn on Sept 10, 2016 21:58:05 GMT -8
I think reading 5 definitely still demonstrates good play and stuff. Prob worth a read if you're unfamiliar, though I would prioritize 3/4.
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Post by haus on Sept 10, 2016 22:02:33 GMT -8
Ok. Well, I'm haus, a super scrubby spacie in North Fl. Glad you're offering some resources cause I'm definitely a mafia newbie. I'll definitely do some reading up.
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Post by spideyday on Sept 10, 2016 22:10:09 GMT -8
sup fellow trainers. i see we decided to actually go outside and stop team rocket instead of doing it from our phones.
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Post by Appel on Sept 10, 2016 22:41:24 GMT -8
SKOOOOOOOOO BUFFS 1240PM 5 SHOTS 4 BEERS I ACCUSE ELEMENTALPENGUIN SEE YA LATER
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Post by MortFeld on Sept 10, 2016 22:56:41 GMT -8
Looks like we got the former lmao
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Post by pawn on Sept 10, 2016 22:57:34 GMT -8
Fucking Rofl
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Post by laudandus on Sept 10, 2016 23:44:22 GMT -8
If you think about it, Pawn has yet to make any major contributions (only setup speculation), but Mafia hasn't pushed a lynch on him in the 5 hours since the game started. I'd say he's very likely Mafia. I accuse Pawn.drbiscuitsWhat are follower, thief, jailkeeper, enabler, and executioner?
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Post by pawn on Sept 10, 2016 23:59:14 GMT -8
Hey man, I was a victim of lesllamas as much as pinecone, you think I feel good about pushing a lynch he put forth with unfair information? I felt pretty bad about it tbh.
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Post by pawn on Sept 11, 2016 0:06:12 GMT -8
i accuse laudandus
he's gonna kill himself anyway so i mean free day 1 information lynch Keepo
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Post by elementalpenguin on Sept 11, 2016 1:40:50 GMT -8
I haven't seen such conviction in a player since lesllamas got all the mafia correct on day one! Laudandus is truly playing in a league of his own right now. Incredible! Pawn must be mafia!
For real, though, that's a lot of roles with some weird powers or names in the OP. Lover encryptor is interesting - if we can potentially kill one lover, the other one will die immediately. Obviously shooting for one is hard as hell, but that means there are two mafia members who are VERY unlikely to be bussed, so any last minute vote jumps become even more suspicious. Encryptor power means that the two lovers will likely be doing most of their interactions in their day chat, but they could also get super chatty as a way to throw off. It pretty much just devolves into WIFOM at that point.
For town, Beloved Princess is the one that catches my eye; according to MafiaScum, if the Beloved Princess is killed, we lose the next day, which is... not great. I'm hoping Biscuits put in some sort of failsafe to this with one of the hidden roles, although given how absurdly mafia favored last game was, I wouldn't be sure. Granted, the lover mafia members is helpful, but Beloved Princess is pretty much just a handicap for the town.
Enabler is apparently a role whose life allows other roles to be used, so... that would be another role that while town-aligned, negatively impacts town. Oof. Jailkeeper is a doctor/roleblocker - that was my role in Mafia 3.
Thief obviously steals Pokemon.
And then there's the last role, and the only one we can really play around at this point: Traitor. I think the only other game we've had with a traitor was Mafia 2, with Appel. I guess Mafia Kid Gravy counts too. I'm guessing the traitor becomes Mafia by following a Mafia member, similar to what happened with Gravy, but we can just ask! Dr. Biscuits, does the traitor know who Mafia are at the start? How do they join the mafia?
Hidden roles are worrying, but not worth stressing about. I am hoping, for the sake of game balance, that they are secret op town roles.
I like open setups. Way more to talk about on day one.
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Post by pawn on Sept 11, 2016 2:33:55 GMT -8
Good quality post epengu, yeah I'm really interested in this Beloved Princess, I feel like one of the secret roles will PROBABLY at least make that more helpful to town, because I imagine the true power of the Beloved Princess is to be able to roleclaim and deter themselves being mislynched, but maybe mafia could counterclaim with a cover role? Do mafia even have cover roles this game? There must be some way for town to ensure the beloved princess isn't nightkilled should they roleclaim and be confirmed, I guess that could be as simple as a doc, however I feel like forcing the doc to heal the princess every night is a very large town nerf, as it essentially makes a vanilla townie out of the doctor barring Yomi stuff with the mafia deciding whether they want to risk their night kill on killing the princess, and hope that the doc relies on the mafia playing yomi 1? Idk, that role definitely appears to be a double edged sword, however one edge is definitely sharper, I'm just not sure which. Lover Encrypter definitely IS interesting, from what I read on the mafiascum wiki, encrypters can speak to each other during the day privately, but can the rest of the mafia see their communications but just not say anything? Or are they private only to those 2 mafia members? Remain on the look out for people who are ride or die defending people and not even entertaining the notion that they might be mafia, as they might be that persons lover counterpart, and also I think while we should still be wary of bussing tactics, I think its okay to be a little less wary of bussing solely because each mafia member has less bus targets, unless they choose to double bus the lovers, which seems bad. That role is definitely dangerous, and we need to be VERY wary of shaky town-blocs like what gravy developed last game, and truly confirm them if they do pop up, relying on reads in that matter isn't sufficient in this scenario as far as I can tell. So, on the topic of thief, pokemon give powers to the player, so if thief can steal powers, is that going to hurt town? Can the original owner of the power/pokemon still use their power should it be stolen or do they lose it and become a vanilla townie? Also curious about traitor but epengu asked the only questions I have about them. The hidden roles I imagine are strong because from what I can tell from the flavor, they're probably the Elite 4, so they'll prob be, to quote laudandus, literal doctorcops.
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Post by drbiscuits on Sept 11, 2016 5:33:40 GMT -8
With 16 alive, it takes 9 to hammer. Vote counts: elementalpenguin (1) - Appel gravy MortFeld laudandus (1) - pawn @habilecho zabimaru1000 pawn (1) - laudandus acute Appel gshark54 str1fe spideyday pinecone tckf spark676 haus Role clarifications for yall: The traitor's job is to derail the town and win with the mafia. He will NEVER know for sure who the mafia are, nor will they know who he is. But, to make him less shitty, I gave him a follow ability. The follow ability allows him to follow one person each night and see what type of role they performed, i.e. "healing", "killing", etc. This should help this character get a little guidance. The theif is exactly how he sounds - he steals pokemon. If he steals a pokemon, he takes their ability for his own. If I had a vulpix that made me bulletproof, and it was stolen, the thief would become bulletproof and I would lose that ability. Jailkeeper is p straightforward, chooses a target to jail during the day and at night can talk with them. Jailor does not have kill ability in this setup, but jailed person is still RBed and cannot be killed while in jail. The enabler enables an ability, like epengu said. Most of these roles are MS, so you just need to google them. Only the enabler knows the power he enables, but say for example he enabled killing. If the enabler dies, then there could be no more nightkills, only day time lynches. Not saying that is or isn't what he enables, but you get the picture. Executioner is standard TOS or MS as well. He has a target who is definitely a townsperson, and needs to see them hanged. If that person dies during the night, they become a jester, and want to be hanged. Also, Ex is bulletproof at night. Yeah epengu I think I answered your question as well, traitor will never know who the mafia are, and will just be told yay you win if they live to the end with the mafia. Mafia do not have cover roles this game. Thief, per pawn's post, can steal from Mafia or town. For example, you already know there are two mafia encryptor lovers, who have (obviously) two abilities. If the thief targets one of them, he could end up being the other's lover (which would be bad, unless he can 1-1 trade) or their ability to day chat, which would give access to everything they've said to one another, which is fantastic. Does that make more sense?
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Post by gravy on Sept 11, 2016 5:49:34 GMT -8
My town bloc was not shaky
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Post by pawn on Sept 11, 2016 6:02:20 GMT -8
shuddup it was shaky, if i didnt have the hardest of reads i could have easily thought u baited cben
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Post by pawn on Sept 11, 2016 6:04:55 GMT -8
That makes sense and that's super cool
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2016 7:05:10 GMT -8
Hey guys. Intro post.
My name is Habilecho (Habil like habilitate, echo like gecko). Most people in the forum just call me Habi. I find this game fascinating and every time I play I feel like I learn more stuff. Typically I play off of a general feel to get started, and when I do get started I stick until I find resolve. All the games I have been mafia hunting as I have never been on the mafia team. I find this tactic works well enough for me to contribute.
So far mostly intro posts / rules and PR clarifications and mindsets pertaining to them. Nothing pings at me quite yet. Although the early votes are interesting to say the least (lol appel). But Day 1 you can't really avoid that kind of stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2016 7:07:27 GMT -8
btw now that school has started the habi last game where I was present all the time (save for day 2 at the start) will probably not be present. I'll contribute as much as possible and forsake any schoolwork that I can but ya know irl is now a factor.
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